23rd Apr 2022, 12:25 PMKat saying just about everything I wish I was able to say in situations like this! Can only hope she's getting through to Kairo with that!
23rd Apr 2022, 1:00 PMYup, yelling at me is the quickest way to make me freeze up. So I can relate in that sense.
It sorta helps to know that the yeller rarely means it in a personal/hateful way (and is dealing with their own frustrations), but it still feels like getting zapped.
23rd Apr 2022, 2:55 PMAnd once again, I feel the need to point put that he needs to mention when she gets it right, too, otherwise she'll think she gets everything wrong.
And in case it wasn’t clear, I totally agree with you. I feel like this is a challenge that Kat in particular faces a lot in all the s&b stories in my head. The others are concerned when she reacts strongly and feel the need to keep her in check—but this really helps her react far worse—because it’s like being indirectly told that there is something wrong with you/you can’t do anything right/you are inherently worse than everyone else around you—over and over and over again.
Their concern may be warranted—but it always needs to come from a place of understanding her as well, and you can’t really understand someone if all you do…is tell them what to do/how to act.
23rd Apr 2022, 4:42 PMYeah, I can relate to her. I'm the sort of person who wants to know if I've messed up so I can avoid doing it wrong over and over, but at the same time, I wilt under constant negative feedback. I need to know I don't suck completely, or I just lose my confidence. And yeah, there is something to be said for finding confidence within yourself, but let's face it, the way your colleagues/superiors treat you is hardly an irrelevant factor or even something the average person can totally ignore.
23rd Apr 2022, 4:39 PMNO ONE reacts well when they're yelled at. Not only does it cause the problems you mentioned but it creates pressure making it harder to concentrate and perform in the future. Good for Kat!
24th Apr 2022, 9:22 AMIt’s kinda nice to hear you say that—it’s not just me you’re right—I’m sure no one benefits from being yelled at or yelling. It’s sad how common it is for people in leadership positions.
24th Apr 2022, 1:35 AMI kinda relate to Kairo here. He's in way over his head with these kids, and knows it. Kat might be easier to get through to, but he's blowing that too, and Evan is openly hostile
and if he pushed too hard the wrong way with either of them, he could end up in a hospital.
He could also benefit a lot by actively seeking more input from Yoshi, which would head off future situations like this one.
finally, Melredblu is absolutely right. Positive input is needed as well. she's only 16, not a SEAL candidate.
24th Apr 2022, 9:29 AMThat’s a really good point! I admire your ability to see this from both points of view. Kairo isn’t really afraid of the kids, but that doesn’t mean he’s perfectly comfortable around them either. He’s definitely a bit overwhelmed.
I feel like he’d benefit even more from the Chief—it’s too bad Kairo finds head authority figures intimidating. He could also benefit from talking to Derek—he just doesn’t want to sound like “so, I’m totally screwing up with your beloved children…”
And yeah, if only Kairo could more easily tell the difference between a kid and a solider :(
24th Apr 2022, 1:37 AMI think the best way to read this page is to remove all the dialogue text, and you'll get a scene where Kat is trying to give a heartfelt explanation and Kairo looks like her as if she's being a sussy baka.
It’s mostly her personality/learning style I think, since Kat’s experiences with people up until this point are exclusively her father, a few members of the SP, Evan, and a small church (from a safe distance/in disguise).
27th Apr 2022, 11:12 AMIf you think about it, S+M is like Amogus in the sense that there are some colorful protagonists/crew members (the mutants) who are trying to find the mutants who keep jumping regular folk (and taking their stuff). And it's up to the protagonists to sus them out and get rid of them somehow.
24th Apr 2022, 9:37 AMIt's great that Kat can so clearly define what she needs and how she works best! I've definitely met some teenagers who have clearly put a lot of thought into these sorts of things. Now we just have to hope that Kairo is able to put this new information to good use. His expression in that last panel makes it look like he's still processing. XD
30th Apr 2022, 5:23 PMI'm also impressed with how well Kat's communicating her feelings here :) . It makes sense and is a relatable thing, can be hard to work when you're constantly on edge about upsetting someone!
That biggest panel with Kat and the checkered floor is so good great non verbal expression, I find that angle and the one where you're looking up at a character from below can be freakin' impossible lmao
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It sorta helps to know that the yeller rarely means it in a personal/hateful way (and is dealing with their own frustrations), but it still feels like getting zapped.
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And in case it wasn’t clear, I totally agree with you. I feel like this is a challenge that Kat in particular faces a lot in all the s&b stories in my head. The others are concerned when she reacts strongly and feel the need to keep her in check—but this really helps her react far worse—because it’s like being indirectly told that there is something wrong with you/you can’t do anything right/you are inherently worse than everyone else around you—over and over and over again.
Their concern may be warranted—but it always needs to come from a place of understanding her as well, and you can’t really understand someone if all you do…is tell them what to do/how to act.
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And unfortunately that factor (superiors, parents’ influence) can be huge.
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Kairooo don't roll your eyes at her, geez
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And yeah Kairo, I know this is new for you but try to give her a break : /
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and if he pushed too hard the wrong way with either of them, he could end up in a hospital.
He could also benefit a lot by actively seeking more input from Yoshi, which would head off future situations like this one.
finally, Melredblu is absolutely right. Positive input is needed as well. she's only 16, not a SEAL candidate.
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I feel like he’d benefit even more from the Chief—it’s too bad Kairo finds head authority figures intimidating. He could also benefit from talking to Derek—he just doesn’t want to sound like “so, I’m totally screwing up with your beloved children…”
And yeah, if only Kairo could more easily tell the difference between a kid and a solider :(
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Also wondering whether this is just Kat's personality, learning style, or something also happened in her past.
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It’s mostly her personality/learning style I think, since Kat’s experiences with people up until this point are exclusively her father, a few members of the SP, Evan, and a small church (from a safe distance/in disguise).
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That biggest panel with Kat and the checkered floor is so good great non verbal expression, I find that angle and the one where you're looking up at a character from below can be freakin' impossible lmao
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And thanks! Angles are very fun to me, but can take forever and be difficult when you’ve never drawn the character in that angle before.